Things We've Heard
I have been reading Perry Noble's Blog...and I am amazed at the way "Christians" treat one another. So what if his church isn't your style or your way of worship? That's why there are so many churches. You can have your pick. At CIOC we have had our share of talk. Here are a couple.
1. CIOC is a Cult. Well I don't think so...it's amazing how many times I have heard this one. We are not a cult for several reasons. One, we worship God not Scott or any other person. This brings me to number 2.
2. It's Scott's way or the highway. This one is not true either. As Senior Pastor it seems as I am getting my way when in reality there has been a lot of times I haven't gotten my way at all. On the other side of this is the fact that Tyra and I birthed this church out of our own house. We don't have the luxury of everyone else of leaving. Many who have left have done so because of decisions I have made. This, in part, makes my case...they left...had they gotten their way...they still would have left. Now that we have a staff of people who have truly become a part of this vision, they (Wally and Julie as well as Blake and Heather) can do about anything they want. Recently while at a conference Blake and Heather were in a group of other youth pastors and all they heard was how hard it was to do what they wanted to do without the senior pastor or council coming down on them. My point? I am not selling out for a bowl of beans like Esau...if you want to have a say at CIOC...Stay and committ....I DID.
3. We started this church from other church members...well this is true and not true. Any time you start a church people from other churches are going to come. I haven't found a church yet who don't have people in it from other churches...it's part of church work. I can, however, say that we DID NOT start this church from a large number of people from one church. Tyra and I were at Rocky River Worship Center in Anderson when we started this church. We had only about 10-15 people come from there over the last 3 years...all but 6 have gone back to Rocky or elsewhere. We got 10 from High Praises Church of God and all of those have left or gone back...so now 3 years later...we have only 12 left that we orginally started with.
Well, that's about it for now...sorry if this offends anyone...I was just wanting to answer some of what I have heard over the years...it's FUNNY if you think about it.
1. CIOC is a Cult. Well I don't think so...it's amazing how many times I have heard this one. We are not a cult for several reasons. One, we worship God not Scott or any other person. This brings me to number 2.
2. It's Scott's way or the highway. This one is not true either. As Senior Pastor it seems as I am getting my way when in reality there has been a lot of times I haven't gotten my way at all. On the other side of this is the fact that Tyra and I birthed this church out of our own house. We don't have the luxury of everyone else of leaving. Many who have left have done so because of decisions I have made. This, in part, makes my case...they left...had they gotten their way...they still would have left. Now that we have a staff of people who have truly become a part of this vision, they (Wally and Julie as well as Blake and Heather) can do about anything they want. Recently while at a conference Blake and Heather were in a group of other youth pastors and all they heard was how hard it was to do what they wanted to do without the senior pastor or council coming down on them. My point? I am not selling out for a bowl of beans like Esau...if you want to have a say at CIOC...Stay and committ....I DID.
3. We started this church from other church members...well this is true and not true. Any time you start a church people from other churches are going to come. I haven't found a church yet who don't have people in it from other churches...it's part of church work. I can, however, say that we DID NOT start this church from a large number of people from one church. Tyra and I were at Rocky River Worship Center in Anderson when we started this church. We had only about 10-15 people come from there over the last 3 years...all but 6 have gone back to Rocky or elsewhere. We got 10 from High Praises Church of God and all of those have left or gone back...so now 3 years later...we have only 12 left that we orginally started with.
Well, that's about it for now...sorry if this offends anyone...I was just wanting to answer some of what I have heard over the years...it's FUNNY if you think about it.
